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Around SBN: An Explanation For Some Of The Perplexing HOF Snubs

IIHF WC Game Day 10, Brandon/Moncton at Memorial Cup

Big slate of games today, starting ridiculously early.  USA/France and Italy/Kazakhstan run at 6:15 AM EST, followed by Denmark/Russia and Latvia/Norway at 10:15 AM EST.  The IIHF action ends with Germany/Belarus and Sweden/Canada at 2:15 PM EST.  We'll know a lot about who is moving forward and who isn't at the IIHF Worlds by the end of the day for sure.

The Memorial Cup continues with a battle of the two winless teams, QMJHL champion Moncton and host Brandon.  Whoever loses won't be completely done, as Windsor lost the first two games at last year's Memorial Cup before winning 4 straight to win it all, but that was the only time that has ever happened, so this is a huge game for both the teams.

Universal Sports should cover the really early USA game, while Sweden/Canada will be covered on TSN.  The IIHF should cover all the other games at the World Championships, while Sportsnet is your place to go for the Memorial Cup.  

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1-0 Russia

Pavel Datsyuk from Ilya Kovalchuk (beautiful between-the-legs pass) and Evgeni Malkin.

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Denmark-Russia, 0-1

After a solid Danish defensive effort throughout the period, Morten madsen makes a bad turnover to Evgeni Malkin in the defensive zone. Malkin makes a nifty backhand pass to Ilya Kovalchuk, who repeats the same feat between his legs to pass it to Pavel Datsyuk who scores on a wrist-shot. No chance for Frederik Andersen.

It almost breaks my heart not to be there, but thigns fell apart with the travel agent at the last minute, and I am reduced to watching the game on TV. Hopefully I can make it for the quarter finals, when we (hopefully) advance.

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by Madelle on May 16, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Denmark-Russia, 0-2, End of Period

During massive Russian pressure towards the end of the period, Ovechkin blasts a one-timer rocket at the goal. The puck jumps back out again. Ovechkin calls it a goal but the referee says no. At the end of the period the play is reviewed. The puck clearly shoots into the back of the net and then ricochets back out.

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by Madelle on May 16, 2010 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Relegation round results

USA beat France 4-0 on goals by Foligno (twice), Dubinsky and Oshie. Seems that the score was very flattering for France. Scott Clemmensen recorded a cheap shutout with only 10 saves necessary (including a strong one on a Sacha Treille breakaway, though). USA should thus stay in the top division, but a three-way tie with France and Italy is still possible.

In the other game, Kazakhstan lost 2-1 to Italy and will now have a very tough time avoiding the relegation. Goals by Starchenko for the Kazakhs, Borgatello and Souza for Italy.

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Denmark-Russia, 1-2

Mads Christensen cuts the lead to 1 on the Power Play. Peter Regin sets up a slap shot and Christensen finds the back of the net with a superb deflection.

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by Madelle on May 16, 2010 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Sweet. Go Denmark!

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by Bruce McCurdy on May 16, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I see the shots are currently 21-14 Denmark, including 9-3 this period. Impressive. Is that indicative of the flow of play?

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by Bruce McCurdy on May 16, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not really. That’s pretty even. The Russians aren’t famed for shooting too much.

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Program note

Canada – Sweden is on TSN 2. Here’s the sked in Mountain Time:

12:15 TSN2 Canada-Sweden
13:00 TSN Chicago @ San Jose
13:00 RSN Moncton @ Brandon

17:00 CBC Montreal @ Philadelphia

It’s a great day for hockey!

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by Bruce McCurdy on May 16, 2010 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

An insane day for hockey! lol

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I may be in the minority in this country given that smorgasbord, but I’m all over Canada-Sweden. Oilers’ last two first-round draft choices face off. Linus Omark for dessert.

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by Bruce McCurdy on May 16, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ovechkin

Just got a breakaway and hit the post. He peeled off so wide you know he thought he had scored.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 11:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Eller now takes a hooking penalty. From the little I’ve seen so far, when Ovie is on, the Danes are on their heels. When he’s off, they counter.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

3-1 Russia

Malkin from Kovalchuk (and someone else, possibly Semin). On that aforementioned PP.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Hockey seems so easy

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

While it was brilliant move on Malkin’s part, I think Frederik Andersen looked shakey there. He should have done a better job covering the corner. A shame, really, since we’d managed to shut down the Russian Power Play pretty well until that point.

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by Madelle on May 16, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

He tried covering down low. He was a bit to paddle down, though.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

2nd period over

3-1 Russia

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

1-0 Latvia

Kristaps Sotnieks from the blue line.

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Norway couldn’t score on a minute-and-a-half 5 on 3. Weak PP.

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

2-0 Latvia

A cannon of a one-timer by Martins Cipulis.

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Peter Regin has replaced Jesper Damgård, who was injured earlier on a cross-check by Alexander Semin. He is now playing on the Danish blueline.

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by Madelle on May 16, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Denmark Russia, 1-4

Pavel Datsyuk is given way too much space in front of goal and proceeds to outdeke Frederik Andersen and two defensemen for his second goal of the game. Nice-looking goal, though the Danish blueline could definitely have been tighter there.

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by Madelle on May 16, 2010 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

3-0 Latvia

Janis Sprukts from the blue line in PP again.

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

4-0 Latvia

Janis Sprukts empty-netter

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

6-1 now

The dam bursts.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Scandinavians don’t like third periods, it seems.

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

We like them plenty, thank you:)

Ours have generally been solid this tournament, but this time there were simply too many defensive breakdowns. Overall, I still think we played a decent game. The shot numbers were about level, which I find amazing. Andersen looked a little bit shakey, but then again he’s only 20 and a game like this has to be invaluable experience for him moving forward.

Incidentally, what was with the Russians seeming to desperately want to fight someone towards the end of the period?

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by Madelle on May 16, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I made the comparison because both teams crumbled at the same time after two solid periods. Of course, it wasn’t the same level of opposition.

From what I’ve seen, the Danish game was more than decent. But Russia was just too strong in the long run. I don’t know who’ll be able to stop them.

As for the end of game, it rather looked to me like the Danes were a bit frustrated, as is often the case with such an outcome. (For most teams, I mean, not just your countrymen.)

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? To me it looked like the Russians were instigating but that may just be looking through rose-tinted glasses marked with national fervor.

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by Madelle on May 16, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Datsyuk has 3 goals and an assist. That new line of Kovalchuk-Datsyuk-Malkin is insane.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Pretty much

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by Madelle on May 16, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow. Who’s playing the wing?

I assume that the former Washington trio of Ovechkin-Fedorov-Semin is also a line?

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by Bruce McCurdy on May 16, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Malkin is playing RW. But I couldn’t quite tell, they moved around a lot. It’d be really stupid to not have Datsyuk at C, but with Bykov you never know…

Yep, the Washington trio is in tact.

Line 3 is Frolov-Kozlov-Terashenko, Line 4 is Kulemin-Anisimov-Afinogenov.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

5-0 Latvia

Guntis Galvins in the dying seconds.

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

What a disastrous tourney for Norway.

Any more “incidents” in this one?

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by Bruce McCurdy on May 16, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing on the scoresheet. I couldn’t get this feed to work for me, so I don’t know if something was missed.

2 empty netters padded the lead. They pulled Grotnes early as they had a late PP down 3-0.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Er, nevermind. The 2nd was with Grotnes back in.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a very interesting game for Oiler fans. Eberle, Paajarvi-Svensson, and Omark may all be Oilers as early as next season.

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by Bruce McCurdy on May 16, 2010 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

An absolutely horrible start for Canada.

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by Bruce McCurdy on May 16, 2010 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Only ten minutes in. Eberle can’t be clutch yet.

by Benjamin Massey on May 16, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that wasn’t good. Lucky to be down by only 1.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

1-0 Belarus

Andrei Mikhalev from Yaroslav Chupris and Evgeni Kovyrshin

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

End of the 1st

Belarus is dominating most of the game with their speed. But the Germans had some big opportunities to tie it.

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Both teams need this, but it’d be nice if the home side carried through to the next round, so specifically Germany needs this.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Softie, 2-0 Sweden

Andersson scores from a bad angle… Mason blows it.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

3-0

Sweden hems the Canadian D down low. Myers continues to struggle. Persson fed that through 3 Canadian sticks right to Andersson.

Johnson is now in goal.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

You’re right about Myers. The Calder favourite has looked like a raw rookie on the big ice.

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by Bruce McCurdy on May 16, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Canada has just sucked in general. This 3-0 lead is probably insurmountable, as the Moncton WIldcats and Boston Bruins know well.

by Benjamin Massey on May 16, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

This reminds me of watching the Oilers. What a shitty performance.

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by Bruce McCurdy on May 16, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jonathon Ericsson makes a huge save on Matt Duchene right after the 3rd goal/Canadian timeout.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Brandon/Moncton

Now under way. 2 minutes in, no score.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Andersson just got robbed of the hat trick by Johnson, who made a nice glove save.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Still no penalties called in this CAN/SWE game.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

First penalty goes to Backman for elbowing Perry in front of the net.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good to see Craig MacTavish’s nasty habit of rotating his mediocre backup goaltenders leading to the more awful one being on the bench when he needs him has continued unabated.

by Benjamin Massey on May 16, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Heh. To be fair, I don’t know if one can really call who is better between the two. Dubnyk just got NHL action for lack of better options, while Johnson did knock off a guy for his backup role in the NHL, even if it was just Valiquette.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

1-0 Brandon

Missed it. Can’t hear who got it. PA system doesn’t pick up well over the TV feed.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Finnish junior Toni Rajaala got the Brandon goal, from Aaron Lewadniuk and Jay Fehr.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess it’s Rajala. Always thought he had four a’s in his name, it’s not quite as Finnish as I thought.

Another Oilers prospect there.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess I’ve been watching the wrong game.

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by Bruce McCurdy on May 16, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Canada hasn’t used the muckers very much from what I’ve seen. Or they just haven’t been effective, can’t tell.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Still 1-0 Belarus after 2

Good effort by Germany, with no result on the scoreboard.

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

3-0 Sweden after 2

Two goals by Andersson, 1 by Harju

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Germany is pushing, but Andrei Mezin says niet.

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I have quite possibly the worst commentary on the feed of this game I found.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

In case you are wondering, the feed I have is in English, but by Germans, so there’s a huge language issue (they aren’t exactly fluent). Plus, there’s a huge knowledge issue.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch. I had the same issue with the IIHF broadcasts last year.

I’m watching the game on a German TV (in German), so no language issue. As for the knowledge issue…

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the goal, the guy kept describing the breakaway save (painfully, and forever).

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

3-1 Sweden

Brooks Laich brings Canada closer.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Canada finally started to play well after killing the 3 on 5.

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by Bruce McCurdy on May 16, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Germany almost scored another goal on a skate deflection.

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Germany ties it up!

1-1. Pulled the goalie, got a one timer in the slot from Muller.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

And Mikhail Grabovsky missed the backbreaker on a breakaway just before.

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weird to see Grabovsky take an important faceoff. HE definitely doesn’t do that in the NHL!

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

With 3 seconds left and 1-1...

Belarus pulls the goalie. To no avail.

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

2-0 Brandon

Rajala again. From Brodie Melnychuk.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

3-1 Sweden Final

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

That was a pretty passing play. Classic.

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by Madelle on May 16, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean Grabovski right?

The Guess Who sucked, the Jets were lousy anyway

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on May 16, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. Typed too quickly. (And I can’t remember that it ends with an I.)

by Kaonashi on May 16, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

2-1 Belarus

Kalyuzhny from Grabovski. An aggressive pinch led to a 3 on 0 in OT. 2 points for Belarus, but 1 very important point for Germany.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

And the best possible result for Denmark in terms of qualifying for the quarter finals

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by Madelle on May 16, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

3-0 Brandon

LA Kings top prospect Brayden Schenn scores on a 2 on 1. The 2 on 1 was created when top 2010 draft prospect Brandon Gormley tripped over the blueline.

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by Bruce Peter on May 16, 2010 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Not a good game for Canada against Sweden, by the sounds of it. They’ll be hard-pressed to medal, but it isn’t totally shocking given the team selected and injuries to two important players in Smyth and Stamkos.

Also, I guess Brandon got over its loss a lot better than Moncton did.

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by stucky on May 16, 2010 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

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